As I said on our F Warrior conference call when asked my feelings about these changes:
"I think it's bullshit. Those people are my heroes"
And they are. But they're gone. And they, other than Imaging, also were the three highest vote receivers in Norm Pattis' blog survey.
I was surprised, but apparently others, at least those who voted, were not.
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3 weeks, before your blog entry,(TLC board shakeup 10/6/09 Norm's pal, Scott Greenfeild, wrote a piece entitled
"Confornting the cult", about TLC.
Do you think TLC is a cult ??? questions have been raised on Mr J R Clary's WWW site on this, he wrote a piece entitled horseshit.You can get to it by googling
clary horseshit, or similar, like Pattis clary horseshit.
Do you feel like you are a cultist ? in a cult ORG...?
Some are now going on about hero worship at TLC must prove deep cult involvement---A la the Pattist vintage..
In any event, I will not leave my name being a suspected cultist, who traved to Wyoming, and was deep inside the gates of some suspected cult, from Norm and his PALS...
Norm has written 25 pieces on his cult crusade, so he must not feel it is a charade total joke. Has he told you all his stuff is a ginat hoax, by chance ?...
I won't leave my C I D, cult I D, so as not to leave any C T, cult tracks with other C M's, cult members.
I am disgusted by the goings on at TLC orchestrated and executed by Mr. Spence and his new suck up Jude Basile. Let's protest with our pocketbooks. Cancel your ranch club pledge, stop attending regionals. I hear they are discontinuing the 7 step program. Utter BS. That was the only way some of us could get the full TLC training. Guess we aren't good enough for them anymore.
Norm's final word on the matter, after
beating a dead horse to death for
3 years is to say he has "pity" for
J R Clary, if any followed the blow by
blow..
J R Clary wrote his indictments on
commentors, too.
TLC grads must have a lot of time
to ruminate on Blogs, on only God
knows what.
If any in the real world can discern what
the real beef is, please let us know,
Spence never uttered one word that appears
on any Blog of his, but he ( his alter ego Argus)
seems to be poking fun at
some composite of either Norm,
or Clary, or a combo of the two,
to adapt to cyber spaces.
Spence has revealed on his Blog
his many rejections in life:
judgeships, Professorships at some
University( U W), and other.
Now, in a great twist of irony
Norm Pattis, an ex TLC instructor,
is revealing on his Blog that
he is a " CIA reject".
Oh, the " circles in life" that so
impact one's humaness.
But, are some TLC on high
perfect.
The great indictments issued by
J R Clary are most curious,
as his life unfolded from his
days " at the police academy",
as he now traffics in TLC politics
Oh, this TLC body politics
unfolds in revealing ways
about power struggles,
much like that in any entity that is
composed of ambitious folks
and jocking for positions, status
and power.
Gerry Spence and his partner, McCalla are
the of record attorneys in the case
before the U S Supreme court on
whether immunty applies in
a suit under 42 U S C section 1983,
where two persons were framed, by false
testimony fed by prosecutors.
The incidents arose out of
Council Bluffs Iowa. The oral arguments
before the U S Supreme Court were yesterday
( 11/4/09.
Spence is still active in important cases.
But, not sure who made the
oral arguments, in Pottawattamie County v McGee
McGee is Spence's client according to
records( summaries on)
Paul Clement made oral arguments before
the U S Supreme for the Spence Firm clients.
Yes, the same Paul Clement who was
# 3 top DOJ attorney in the Bush Admin( S C).
He has been the subject of articles,
since leaving the DOJ( the $ 5 million
dollar man).
What a new dream team.
So many ironies:
In August Norm Pattis drops by
Spence's blog, and drops a bomb shell
question on child porn cases.
Now, come Nov of 2009,
Pattis is putting on his blog ABC
programs about a child porn conviction
in Wyoming.
Any who go to Norm's site who he does not
like are branded as "hackers"
his way of chilling comments,
while Norm created the issue on
cults, and the Wyo- Ranch.
Norm sure uses his computer nets
for games.
He even got J R Clary so jacked
up to issue streaming piles of
pile, to any he sees as not persons,
who he puts an Annon target lablel
on their back-- some La thing, apparently,
How very funny Spence is now associated with a former DOJ man. Pretty hypocritical if you ask me.
There are no more heroes at TLC. They have all been forced out. Only those who suck up to the new leader remain. More will be sent away. Staff members who don't swear allegiance will be tossed aside. But you will never know the truth because it will be hidden from you by propoganda and marketing pitches. So long as you keep giving money to TLC, that is ALL they care about. They don't give one rats ass about real people.
Spence would be hard pressed to
personally argue before the Supreme court
is a 42 U S C 1983 case, when he issued
a flaming bash of the entire U S Supreme
Court in the forward to the book
Betrayal of America by Vince Bugolsi,
the ex D A in L A,
Vince was frosted on how the Supreme
Court handed the 2000 election to
Bush. He got Spence to wrtite the
flaming forward to his book,
Now, come 2009, Sprnce has this
important case before the Supremes.
What does he do he teams up with
the ex Top Bush DOJ guy who knows
how the Supremes work.
Actually, it show how much
juice Bush DOJ guys have with
the Supremes.
And, given Spences prior flame out of
the Supremes, Spence did not appear to
want to appear before them, personally.
The case has a Omaha nexus,
too. A very important case Spence
is involved in.
Norm cracks so many up,
his latest is giving Cheryl Carpenter
a " hat tip" on her sex offense case victory
in Michigan.
Ms Carpenter was the first on J R Clary's Blog
site to cheer him on to post on Norms
pieces on TLC are horseshit, ( tranistory at that
the title of the Clary's
piece.
Look who is the big adoration society
guy now in TLC club- none other than
Norm, on the eve of the big Dallas.
Is Norm now clawing in a coy way to
get back in the TLC fold. ?
Norm has left TLC to go to his next
crusade sex offense litigation.
Is that going to be a big topic in
Dallas. ?
pow wow.
Good riddance to bad rubbage. So what if Jude got rid of Fredi, Carl, Kailyn and Lynne. No big loss. Plus, Jude is making his own "team."
Well this broohaha has now spilled over into 2010, with David going on Norm's Blog, and Norm doing more posts(blog) pieces, after he said he dusted off his boots for about 38 times, and people going on Spence's blog to lay things out too. The dust-ups of 2010, to start of the ranch matters/ seasons.
So, bottom line, after over 40 Norm blog pieces, it dawns on him that TLC is just another CLE--- namely a continuing legal Education course.
Gee, such insights, such blazing brilliance.
What did he think a class in a barn was going to be, some 2nd coming of Jesus.
Norm will be older one day soon, he is already going to "seed".
But, how many more times will he be
in a tizzy about the Wyoming dust on his boots from TLC.
Face it, that dust was deeply ingrained in his skin---it got deep under his skin.
He was annointed with the WYO dust from the Wind Rivers, he can never wash it off.
Can you say that about a CLE course in Miami on pass through trusts, and the rule against PERPs..
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